{"id":879,"date":"2023-10-28T04:25:22","date_gmt":"2023-10-28T04:25:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/?p=879"},"modified":"2025-10-27T16:43:31","modified_gmt":"2025-10-27T16:43:31","slug":"episode-35-no-division","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/episodes\/episode-35-no-division\/","title":{"rendered":"Episode 35: No Division: Attention and Learning and Technology"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Matt&#8217;s Notes<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hey there! Welcome to our thirty-fifth embarkation into (podcasting) Parts Unknown-ish. This episode is all about attention and learning and technology. Nothing major, amiright?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"The Ed non-Tech (EnT) Podcast Number Thirty-Five: No Division\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/EBcGkHWFCTU?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">We&#8217;re clearing the video decks! Watch out! #ednontech<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Ent35audio.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Insert witty #ednontech aphorism here! Or don&#8217;t! <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So, in effort to streamline the production process for this episode as much as possible&#8230; I&#8217;m actually preparing these notes BEFORE KNOWING THE TOPIC. Not like I&#8217;m yelling or anything. But just when I think I&#8217;ve exceeded the threshold for a certain kind of slackerdom, the bottom falls a bit lower! <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Anyway, I thought I&#8217;d do a second round of speaking to some of the things that I&#8217;ve emailed myself over the past few weeks. Many (most!) of these have little or nothing to do with my job as a sort of learning design consultant in the Security Industry.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"687\" height=\"692\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Screenshot-2023-10-27-224117.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-896\" srcset=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Screenshot-2023-10-27-224117.jpg 687w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Screenshot-2023-10-27-224117-298x300.jpg 298w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Screenshot-2023-10-27-224117-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Screenshot-2023-10-27-224117-300x302.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 687px) 100vw, 687px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tis the #ednontech season year round, as a matter of fact!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As spoken of during the recording! <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.canada.ca\/en\/government\/system\/digital-government\/digital-government-innovations\/responsible-use-ai\/guide-use-generative-ai.html\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.canada.ca\/en\/government\/system\/digital-government\/digital-government-innovations\/responsible-use-ai\/guide-use-generative-ai.html\" target=\"_blank\">There are now guidelines<\/a> regarding how Generative AI is to be used by the Canadian Federal government, including the SPELLBINDING acronym FASTER:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"420\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Screenshot-2023-10-27-235946-1024x420.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-897\" srcset=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Screenshot-2023-10-27-235946-1024x420.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Screenshot-2023-10-27-235946-300x123.jpg 300w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Screenshot-2023-10-27-235946-768x315.jpg 768w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Screenshot-2023-10-27-235946-850x349.jpg 850w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Screenshot-2023-10-27-235946.jpg 1248w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In the course of my work lately I&#8217;m in the early stages of a multi-modal e-learning development project which caused me to look at the <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/www.cdlra-acrfl.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/2021-CDLRA-definitions-report-5.pdf\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"http:\/\/www.cdlra-acrfl.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/2021-CDLRA-definitions-report-5.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">CDLRA&#8217;s  Evolving Definitions in Digital Learning<\/a>: A National Framework for Categorizing Commonly Used Terms. This is circa 2020, when the pandemic had many rethinking how distance delivery works\/worked. I think of this as evergreen content&#8230; good for at least a few more years&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And, finally, but not leastly!, a new-ish white paper from EDUCAUSE &amp; the Horizon Report people\/panelists:  <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/library.educause.edu\/-\/media\/files\/library\/2023\/9\/2023horizonactplangenai.pdf?la=en&amp;hash=439EEB1A05C86E089B7892A5BFFF1746A5A181D9\" target=\"_blank\">2023 EDUCAUSE Horizon Action Plan: Generative AI<\/a>. It is really a list of common-sense dictates from the individual level all the way out to the multi-institutional. It&#8217;s worth keeping within close reach, not the least reason for which is graphics like this&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"654\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Screenshot-2023-10-28-001055-1024x654.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-898\" srcset=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Screenshot-2023-10-28-001055-1024x654.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Screenshot-2023-10-28-001055-300x192.jpg 300w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Screenshot-2023-10-28-001055-768x490.jpg 768w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Screenshot-2023-10-28-001055-850x543.jpg 850w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Screenshot-2023-10-28-001055.jpg 1032w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The fact that I&#8217;m finding this stuff out on LinkedIn is kind of awesome and even more kind of &#8220;meh&#8221;. But I have to acknowledge that I have a much wider &#8220;community&#8221; in terms of numbers than in either FB or IG&#8230; likely NOT a topic for another episode! Anyway, I suppose I consider this a Friday night well-spent! I hope you are enjoying the throes of autumn&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><div class=\"h5p-iframe-wrapper\"><iframe id=\"h5p-iframe-6\" class=\"h5p-iframe\" data-content-id=\"6\" style=\"height:1px\" src=\"about:blank\" frameBorder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" title=\"Completely Gratuitous H5P Presentation\"><\/iframe><\/div><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Doug&#8217;s Notes<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"431\" height=\"134\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Picture1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-891\" style=\"aspect-ratio:3.216417910447761;width:811px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Picture1.png 431w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Picture1-300x93.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 431px) 100vw, 431px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><em>Attention and Learning and Technology<\/em><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Attention definition: \u201c&#8230; the taking possession of the mind in clear and vivid form \u2026 it implies withdrawal from some things in order to deal effectively with others.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">James, W. (1890). The Principles Of Psychology Volume II By William James (1890).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"435\" height=\"435\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Picture2.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-892\" style=\"aspect-ratio:1;width:840px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Picture2.png 435w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Picture2-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Picture2-150x150.png 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 435px) 100vw, 435px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On the other hand despite this wealth of research, significant questions remain about the nature of attention, its purpose and neural mechanisms.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Gottlieb, J. (2012). Attention, learning, and the value of information. Neuron, 76(2), 281-295.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"750\" height=\"820\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Picture3.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-893\" srcset=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Picture3.jpg 750w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Picture3-274x300.jpg 274w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Picture3-300x328.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The use of technology has the potential not only to maintain attention but also to motivate learners to pay attention.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"624\" height=\"455\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Picture4.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-894\" srcset=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Picture4.png 624w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Picture4-300x219.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 624px) 100vw, 624px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Bester, G., &amp; Brand, L. (2013). The effect of technology on learner attention and achievement in the classroom. South African Journal of Education, 33(2).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"369\" height=\"518\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Picture5.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-895\" srcset=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Picture5.jpg 369w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Picture5-214x300.jpg 214w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Picture5-300x421.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 369px) 100vw, 369px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Technology increasingly impacts on the ways in which people acquire, update, and correct their understanding.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The impact of emerging technologies on various mental functions has been a topic of some consternation for decades, if not centuries.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Printing press &gt; distribution of books &gt; negative impact on memory<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Digital technologies &gt; negative impact on people (memory, capacity for social interaction, foundational cognitive functions)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2026 while there is much discussion about the potential negative impacts of technologies, there are few examples of robust research findings across different levels of analysis to support this claim.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Lodge, J. M., &amp; Harrison, W. J. (2019). Focus: Attention science: The role of attention in learning in the digital age. The Yale journal of biology and medicine, 92(1), 21.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Word of the podcast<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-vivid-purple-background-color has-background wp-block-paragraph\">Attention<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Phrase of the podcast<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-pale-pink-background-color has-background wp-block-paragraph\">\u00a0It&#8217;s been a long week!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Question of the podcast<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-vivid-red-background-color has-background wp-block-paragraph\">How can we leverage our abilities and technology to help us pay attention to what we are learning?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Hot Water Music - No Division\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/3k5Lm2yRXQc?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">No caption could ever convey it&#8217;s own lack of necessity as emphatically as I&#8217;m trying to have it do here! #ednontech<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><em>Thanks as ever for spending the time with us! Until whenever&#8217;s next!<\/em><\/h2>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_2719\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-879-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Ent35audio.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Ent35audio.mp3\">https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Ent35audio.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Ent35audio.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/?powerpress_pinw=879-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Ent35audio.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"Ent35audio.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Matt&#8217;s Notes Hey there! Welcome to our thirty-fifth embarkation into (podcasting) Parts Unknown-ish. This episode is all about attention and learning and technology. Nothing major, amiright? Insert witty #ednontech aphorism here! Or don&#8217;t! 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