{"id":2027,"date":"2024-10-21T07:15:34","date_gmt":"2024-10-21T07:15:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/?p=2027"},"modified":"2025-10-27T16:18:53","modified_gmt":"2025-10-27T16:18:53","slug":"episode-64-discipline","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/episodes\/episode-64-discipline\/","title":{"rendered":"Episode 64: Discipline: Academic disciplines and silos"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Matt&#8217;s Notes<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hey there, folks! We are continuing our dive into pan-and-or-interdisciplinarity! As might be ascertained, we have opinions! And then some!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"The Ed non-Tech (EnT) Podcast 64: Disipline\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/bDfJesong4E?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">We have silos where angels fear to tread! #ednontech<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"http:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/EnT64-audio.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If you can&#8217;t handle the video, the audio is another exit from bedlam! #ednontech<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"(clip) BEDLAM aka Cherry Knowle\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Wyq2ZUHsi-g?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As with my previous comments, written relatively concurrently to these&#8230; the best thing for all involved is simply to get this thing out the (bedlam) door!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I have much affinity for the aesthetic framing I was quickly able to assemble behind the scenes for this episode! I am such a huge, huge fan of the UK punk band Leatherface, as well as all associated acts and particularly the writing of Frankie Norman Warsaw Stubbs! It is the work of another podcast and time to speak to the depths of debt to Frankie&#8230; simply from the standpoint of  being a fan of an artist who I have listened to more than nearly any other, and whose words and singing voice move me in ways I&#8217;m challenged to describe whether speaking aloud to the thing, or the writing&#8230; as the case may be!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The ongoing discussion of interdisciplinarity and\/or challenges associated with these kinds of approaches is Doug, through and through (and through)! I am grateful to the ways he continues to push the boundaries of what this show seeks to address!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And so, in the interests of scale and efficiency, I will leave that there! Much gratitude and respect to anyone checking out our show and\/or these notes for any reason whatsoever!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"395\" height=\"301\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/tumblr_n22vedkGck1s702q2o8_400.gif\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2044\" style=\"width:842px;height:auto\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Doug&#8217;s Notes<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><em>Academic disciplines and silos<\/em><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The ideal situation is one in which the teacher of every science leads the student to see the larger relations of the subject, especially with the disciplines that are closely akin. The relations of physics, chemistry, astronomy, biology, and psychology ought to be suggested by the specialists in those fields.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dodson, G. R. (1908). The function of philosophy as an academic discipline.<em> The Journal of Philosophy, Psychology and Scientific Methods, 5<\/em>(17), 454-458.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"395\" height=\"301\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/tumblr_n22vedkGck1s702q2o5_400.gif\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2043\" style=\"width:837px;height:auto\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Disciplinary classifications originated in the early 19th century to categorize different fields of seemingly discrete knowledge within the European academy, becoming refined and deepened in the West in the 20th century.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Stichweh, R. (2001). History of scientific disciplines. International encyclopedia of the social and behavioral sciences, 13727-13731.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lh7-rt.googleusercontent.com\/docsz\/AD_4nXdsfisrMi8iinq1zSSiXWnOUIQ1SPIfBOHWzkSwUS0UUyDby-HtK3rcdBM3XK2czaYnUBrLD-jdGtaRfnaODGy8UfWiQx2Og_Rtl6OC1qZVUtQvsAsy80NElNLTRPwiQgwjAasKDXKF4LpaI0Ydc3MsanYa?key=XhncU7zpSnIglQR_cm3mCw\" width=\"380\" height=\"240\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The new interdisciplinarians sometimes point at the problem that academic work generally happens within narrow and possibly arbitrary or artificial disciplinary boundaries, which sometimes prevents academics seeing the close connections of different phenomena and also of the different disciplines.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Krishnan, A. (2009). What are academic disciplines. Some observations on the disciplinarity vs. interdisciplinarity debate, 1-59.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lh7-rt.googleusercontent.com\/docsz\/AD_4nXemWe3O-hB5iV0CQvEQDUvZR7ZLNWJknAVRCSz4MHmmjo70QQIA0gg32f1oDqGEizyNvhSszzV56I0iz3rea8EJI6fXpcYgdt4oYj6PyaT9ftIbjLwtl_IJGuiFFd0XAYj2_9NOfRo76PHIyT3GfL_B-7-1?key=XhncU7zpSnIglQR_cm3mCw\" width=\"390\" height=\"270\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Despite the significant social processes that underline the division of labor between the modern disciplines, disciplines are fundamentally founded cognitive structures of shared sets of concepts, questions, references and methods&nbsp; This is also the basis of disciplines\u2019 cognitive territories.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tellmann, S. M. (2022). The societal territory of academic disciplines: How disciplines matter to society. <em>Minerva, 60<\/em>(2), 159-179.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lh7-rt.googleusercontent.com\/docsz\/AD_4nXcg2cfN2Tujfmd6tHBNiIc1QPwhaEz1t_qPcZEOJeYqPaLQNrQSprUDWvSE1p0ElieTylCqh-WEEvPHvFRPo2A9h1OAD6jKoujXGD7DHXtT9XrDYVgxAhITga8vboKu3Hp2H0LzOLpVx_YWhrFhKmLlaAb3?key=XhncU7zpSnIglQR_cm3mCw\" width=\"624\" height=\"435\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A silo mentality is defined as follows:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">An attitude found in some organizations that occurs when several departments or groups do not want to share information or knowledge with other individuals in the same company. A silo mentality reduces efficiency \u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Friedman, H. H. (2018). How the creation of too many academic departments stifles creativity, encourages a silo mentality, and increases administrative bloat. Encourages a Silo Mentality, and Increases Administrative Bloat (January 2, 2018).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lh7-rt.googleusercontent.com\/docsz\/AD_4nXf_aIMwsSIzZp5vxMODeMPqUF2klx4ol3UcsvUE_vC2oxLw7TrI4XSnZjsSl4FJEeTpXQ78kHvSOugZph1rJVch99q9OU1t6G_j6rl6n497s26xZRp8DykQwfhXDkK2EFZu7JPDmnbd212ggWjtTKArBtvM?key=XhncU7zpSnIglQR_cm3mCw\" width=\"493\" height=\"274\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"320\" height=\"240\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/FcKR_u.gif\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2042\" style=\"width:841px;height:auto\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Word of the Podcast<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-light-green-cyan-background-color has-background wp-block-paragraph\">Silo<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Question of the Podcast<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-light-green-cyan-background-color has-background wp-block-paragraph\">How can we reduce the cognitive territories that limit knowledge creation?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Phrase of the Podcast<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-light-green-cyan-background-color has-background wp-block-paragraph\">Administrative bloat is a great phrase.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&amp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-light-green-cyan-background-color has-background wp-block-paragraph\">Do people have a favourite Canadian poet?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"395\" height=\"301\" src=\"http:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/tumblr_n22vedkGck1s702q2o3_400.gif\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2040\" style=\"width:841px;height:auto\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><em>If we were more grateful, it would be unnatural! Until whenever is next!<\/em><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-8f761849 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-4-3 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Leatherface - Discipline (1991 radio session)\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/B13RR7F_x0Q?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Leatherface - Discipline\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/J0WjMzfDntw?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Frankie Stubbs - Discipline - 3.4.2024 - Karlsruhe - Alte Hackerei\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/TYAuHJrOdbY?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">I&#8217;ve seen people turn to God, their discipline is praising the Lord<br>I&#8217;ve seen people go off to war, getting discipline and needing more #ednontech<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_7792\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-2027-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/EnT64-audio.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/EnT64-audio.mp3\">http:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/EnT64-audio.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/EnT64-audio.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/?powerpress_pinw=2027-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/EnT64-audio.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"EnT64-audio.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Matt&#8217;s Notes Hey there, folks! We are continuing our dive into pan-and-or-interdisciplinarity! As might be ascertained, we have opinions! And then some! 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