{"id":1946,"date":"2024-07-12T04:56:52","date_gmt":"2024-07-12T04:56:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/?p=1946"},"modified":"2025-10-27T16:21:06","modified_gmt":"2025-10-27T16:21:06","slug":"conversation-14-the-places-youll-go","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/pedagogy\/conversation-14-the-places-youll-go\/","title":{"rendered":"Conversation #14: The Places You&#8217;ll Go! An interview with Dr. Norm Vaughan"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Earlier this week, Doug and I had the chance to speak with Dr. Norm Vaughan, Professor with the Education and Schooling Faculty at Mount Royal University in Calgary. Norm has had an rich and varied career across a wide range of settings, contexts, and locations! He is the author of numerous articles, presentations, books, and he joined us to speak about his latest book <a href=\"https:\/\/www.aupress.ca\/books\/120324-principles-of-blended-learning\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Principles of Blended Learning: Shared Metacognition and Communities of Inquiry<\/em> <\/a>(2023)! We also get into a whole lot of &#8220;other&#8221;!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-4-3 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"The Ed non-Tech (EnT) Convo 14: Dr. Norm Vaughan\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/aRbSJF8svvw?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A triple-headed #ednontech threat!<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"http:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/EnTinterview14audio.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">All of the audio kilojoules with fewer of the video calories! #ednontech<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"511\" height=\"286\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/giphy-1.gif\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1958\" style=\"width:843px;height:auto\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Notes and Commentary<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Friends, I was utterly stoked to learn while we were preparing to record that Dr. Vaughan and Dr. Reid know each other well from some years&#8230; decades!&#8230; back!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Furthermore, Norm was greatly obliging when it came to sharing resources&#8230; above and beyond those provided below!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Some of the highlights from the notes that Doug, Norm, and myself prepared via Google Docs&#8230; at least for me!&#8230; include:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Norm is looking forward to the forthcoming book <em><a href=\"https:\/\/link.springer.com\/book\/9783031679902#about-this-book\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Generative AI and Education: Digital Pedagogies, Teaching Innovation and Learning Design<\/a><\/em> (Pratschke, 2024). Based on my view of the publisher&#8217;s page, this is going to be essential reading!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Furthermore, all three of the books on blended learning that Norm has helped author are all, respectively, essential among e-learning titles generally&#8230; and blended learning in specific! <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.ca\/Blended-Learning-Higher-Education-Principles\/dp\/0787987700\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Blended Learning in Higher Education<\/a><\/em> was a key text for me during my doctorate&#8230; and subsequently!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-8f761849 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"608\" height=\"900\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/61pYo4rTVoL.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1964\" srcset=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/61pYo4rTVoL.jpg 608w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/61pYo4rTVoL-203x300.jpg 203w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/61pYo4rTVoL-300x444.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 608px) 100vw, 608px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Version 1.0.0<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"534\" height=\"800\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/9781927356470-27908-600x800-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1965\" srcset=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/9781927356470-27908-600x800-1.jpg 534w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/9781927356470-27908-600x800-1-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/9781927356470-27908-600x800-1-300x449.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 534px) 100vw, 534px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"388\" height=\"600\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/120324-Principles-of-Blended-Learning-cover-388x600-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1966\" style=\"width:739px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/120324-Principles-of-Blended-Learning-cover-388x600-1.jpg 388w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/120324-Principles-of-Blended-Learning-cover-388x600-1-194x300.jpg 194w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/120324-Principles-of-Blended-Learning-cover-388x600-1-300x464.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 388px) 100vw, 388px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">My final point in these notes&#8230; which I spoke to during the recording&#8230; is that with the new book, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.aupress.ca\/books\/120324-principles-of-blended-learning\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Principles of Blended Learning: Shared Metacognition and Communities of Inquiry<\/em> <\/a>(2023) we are seeing further expression and delineation of CoI principles vis-\u00e0-vis the seven principles of blended learning!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"724\" height=\"625\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-12-014743.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1967\" srcset=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-12-014743.jpg 724w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-12-014743-300x259.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 724px) 100vw, 724px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Furthermore, the meaningful and significant reference to Indigenous ways of knowing throughout the book is, to the best of my knowledge, entirely new to CoI works&#8230; and a welcome move forward! More of this, please!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"944\" height=\"272\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-12-015130.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1968\" srcset=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-12-015130.jpg 944w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-12-015130-300x86.jpg 300w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-12-015130-768x221.jpg 768w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-12-015130-850x245.jpg 850w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 944px) 100vw, 944px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"976\" height=\"239\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-12-015251.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1969\" srcset=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-12-015251.jpg 976w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-12-015251-300x73.jpg 300w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-12-015251-768x188.jpg 768w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-12-015251-850x208.jpg 850w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 976px) 100vw, 976px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From Vaughan, Cleveland-Innes, &amp; Garrison (2023)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Vaughan, N. D., Dell, D., Cleveland-Innes, M., &amp; Garrison, D. R. (2023).&nbsp;<em>Principles of blended learning: Shared metacognition and communities of inquiry<\/em>. Athabasca University Press<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"624\" height=\"540\" src=\"https:\/\/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com\/docsz\/AD_4nXdjVOrgOlOpIVAJ4ba1etqI-ytQsgQndBJvRYnp62p4QBJpDL3CwbFGhrwLCueEIsFtUnbOOyypkR2NYZpxhKoEyXxOVVQ6twc-OKRl8SFcuuyiAst3eeCMBgwLTDoJuJv74oaHzWWGlN4bJUYa-GFcy8i4?key=YK9P5XJZtu-voYaLjuccZg\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This diagram really resonated with Doug! And it&#8217;s easy to see why!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Phrase(s) of the Podcast<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-background wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"background-color:#f8b5c6\">Relationships, relationships, relationships!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-background wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"background-color:#f8b5c6\">Community, community, community!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Space_debris_GIF_ESA380488.gif\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1970\" style=\"width:842px;height:auto\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><em>We are pleased to the max that Dr. Vaughan was able to join us! And you! And them!<\/em><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-4-3 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"80 West\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/IdEY4UppWa4?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Sometimes the way I get my thoughts are cloudy<br>I forget how good I always feel when I&#8217;m with you<br>Now I&#8217;ve finally figured out I need to be around<br>Your sights and sounds I&#8217;ve been away for too long #ednontech<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_2278\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-1946-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/EnTinterview14audio.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/EnTinterview14audio.mp3\">http:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/EnTinterview14audio.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/EnTinterview14audio.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/?powerpress_pinw=1946-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/EnTinterview14audio.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"EnTinterview14audio.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Earlier this week, Doug and I had the chance to speak with Dr. Norm Vaughan, Professor with the Education and Schooling Faculty at Mount Royal University in Calgary. 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