{"id":1852,"date":"2024-06-25T00:40:32","date_gmt":"2024-06-25T00:40:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/?p=1852"},"modified":"2025-11-04T19:49:08","modified_gmt":"2025-11-04T19:49:08","slug":"conversation-10-i-hate-music","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/ed-non-tech-conversations\/conversation-10-i-hate-music\/","title":{"rendered":"Conversation #10: I Hate Music: An interview with Bob Mehr"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Tape&#8217;s rolling<\/em>&#8230; er&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Friends, pals, colleagues, university Education students and\/or profs and\/or any single individual checking this out from any vantage point whatsoever&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Bob Mehr is, among many (many!) things, a 2 x Grammy Award winning writer, producer, and NYT bestselling author of one of the most definitive rock bios ever written about any band&#8230; <em>basically in the history of the deep and wide rock bio canon<\/em>&#8230; I am, of course referring to <em>Trouble Boys: The True Story of the Replacements <\/em>(<a href=\"https:\/\/www.dacapopress.com\/titles\/bob-mehr\/trouble-boys\/9780306822032\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Da Capo, 2016<\/a>)!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Bob generously replied quickly and affirmatively to a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/bob-mehr-a9b4126\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">LinkedIn  message<\/a> from a complete stranger, leading to the present convo! My mind is still blown, thanks!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"The Ed non-Tech Convo 10: Bob Mehr\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/yQgZKURJshI?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Westerberg&#8217;s probably not gonna watch this! But you never know! #ednontech<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"http:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/entconv10audio.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This #ednontech audio is best played at a sensible, adult volume! But it&#8217;s up to you all&#8230; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-8f761849 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"498\" height=\"259\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/radio-boombox.gif\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1856\" style=\"width:431px;height:auto\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"416\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/ezgif-3-dcec1e7436-1.gif\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1857\" style=\"width:407px;height:auto\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"506\" height=\"515\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/448833737_7822140471214280_4703266457351614333_n.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1858\" style=\"width:842px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/448833737_7822140471214280_4703266457351614333_n.jpg 506w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/448833737_7822140471214280_4703266457351614333_n-295x300.jpg 295w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/448833737_7822140471214280_4703266457351614333_n-300x305.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 506px) 100vw, 506px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A photo of the rock biographer&#8230; with some of his hard-earned hardware! #ednontech<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Matt&#8217;s Notes<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Personal fandom alert! I&#8217;m a forever fan of the Replacements, and all associated musicians, acts, and scenes&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Also, as a general thing, me and my pals in Atlantic Canada have all, many of us anyhow, been through various Replacements fandoms&#8230; my best friend Jon was in a band called <a href=\"https:\/\/thewesterbergsuicides.bandcamp.com\/album\/the-westerberg-suicides\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">the Westerberg Suicides<\/a> forever&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And, furthermore, I&#8217;ve been a fan of Bob Mehr&#8217;s authoritative, bestselling, thoroughly enjoyable, and thoroughly&#8230; <em>troubling<\/em>&#8230; biography of one of the Last Great Rock Bands&#8230; since before it came out! Since I heard the project was in development&#8230; more than ten years ago! <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Bob&#8217;s professional connections and accolades are so significant, and so public&#8230; far be it from me to rehash any of it&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-8f761849 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Bob Mehr Wins Best Album Notes | 2021 GRAMMY Awards Show Acceptance Speech\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/MODXwyKL7qM?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"BOB MEHR Wins Best Historical Album | 2023 GRAMMYs\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/TUOPpqhHt70?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Speaking as a fan of the Replacements, Wilco, Green Day&#8230; and a veritable boatload of the others Bob has worked with through his writing, journalism, production, archival work, and just about any other role within the music industry you could care to name&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The word is &#8220;thanks&#8221;! In all gratitude&#8230; and <em>RADITUDE<\/em>&#8230; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And beyond any further of that, I&#8217;ll let the convo speak for itself&#8230; although I&#8217;ll leave a screenshot from the book&#8217;s website which Bob mentioned in the recording&#8230; and, as a special bonus, at absolutely no cost to you whatsoever&#8230; a &#8216;Mats-heavy YouTube playlist&#8230; AKA <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/playlist?list=PL2LI6OKRyIX-4Ho5r5sHVQLY-eOTRoRvI\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">&#8220;Bob&#8217;s Greatest Hits&#8221;<\/a>!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-8f761849 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"529\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Screenshot-2024-06-24-183901-1024x529.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1860\" srcset=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Screenshot-2024-06-24-183901-1024x529.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Screenshot-2024-06-24-183901-300x155.jpg 300w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Screenshot-2024-06-24-183901-768x397.jpg 768w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Screenshot-2024-06-24-183901-850x439.jpg 850w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Screenshot-2024-06-24-183901.jpg 1411w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Go to here now! <a href=\"https:\/\/www.replacementsbook.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/www.replacementsbook.com\/<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"537\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Screenshot-2024-06-24-190615-1024x537.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1861\" srcset=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Screenshot-2024-06-24-190615-1024x537.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Screenshot-2024-06-24-190615-300x157.jpg 300w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Screenshot-2024-06-24-190615-768x403.jpg 768w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Screenshot-2024-06-24-190615-1536x805.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Screenshot-2024-06-24-190615-850x446.jpg 850w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Screenshot-2024-06-24-190615.jpg 1579w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Bob has also recently worked on these other&#8230; uh&#8230; FAIRLY HIGH-PROFILE projects as well&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-8f761849 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1000\" height=\"1000\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/61SyQ7mPKeL._UF10001000_QL80_.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1862\" srcset=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/61SyQ7mPKeL._UF10001000_QL80_.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/61SyQ7mPKeL._UF10001000_QL80_-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/61SyQ7mPKeL._UF10001000_QL80_-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/61SyQ7mPKeL._UF10001000_QL80_-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/61SyQ7mPKeL._UF10001000_QL80_-850x850.jpg 850w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\"><div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"552\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Dookie30-6ColorLP-scaled-1-1024x552.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1863\" style=\"width:716px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Dookie30-6ColorLP-scaled-1-1024x552.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Dookie30-6ColorLP-scaled-1-300x162.jpg 300w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Dookie30-6ColorLP-scaled-1-768x414.jpg 768w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Dookie30-6ColorLP-scaled-1-1536x827.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Dookie30-6ColorLP-scaled-1-2048x1103.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Dookie30-6ColorLP-scaled-1-850x458.jpg 850w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Billy Joe&#8230; Jeff&#8230; Paul&#8230; or, you know, the drummers&#8230; or&#8230; uh&#8230; other cool, rad indie artists&#8230; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The EnT Podcast and\/or <a href=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/music\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Today New Brunswick Tomorrow the World<\/a> would be grateful! And shook! To have you&#8230; as guests!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Phew<\/em>&#8230; so much effort not to fanboy on this thing! Folks, as far as I&#8217;m concerned this was a riot! You&#8217;ve witnessed history in the making, of various kinds!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Finally&#8230; I&#8217;d be remiss not to share a link to what is probably my <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=-OXVQKi9O_c\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">favorite Westerberg interview of all time<\/a>&#8230;!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Green Day - Basket Case [Official Music Video] (4K Upgrade)\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/NUTGr5t3MoY?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Sometimes we give ourselves the creeps! #ednontech<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><em>Bob, thanks for stopping by! And the rest of you all, as well!<\/em> <em>But not as much as Bob!<\/em><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"The Replacements - I Hate Music (Official Music Video)\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/ygO-ws6vUrQ?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">I hate music<br>Sometimes I don&#8217;t<br>I hate music<br>It&#8217;s got too many notes #ednontech<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"564\" height=\"325\" src=\"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/smashthekeys4_5810395687973988.gif\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1859\" style=\"width:836px;height:auto\"\/><\/figure>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_5124\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-1852-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/entconv10audio.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/entconv10audio.mp3\">http:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/entconv10audio.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/entconv10audio.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/?powerpress_pinw=1852-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/entconv10audio.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"entconv10audio.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Tape&#8217;s rolling&#8230; er&#8230; Friends, pals, colleagues, university Education students and\/or profs and\/or any single individual checking this out from any vantage point whatsoever&#8230; Bob Mehr is, among many (many!) things, a 2 x Grammy Award winning writer, producer, and NYT bestselling author of one of the most definitive rock bios ever written about any band&#8230;&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1855,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[41],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1852","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-ed-non-tech-conversations"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1852","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1852"}],"version-history":[{"count":18,"href":"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1852\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2752,"href":"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1852\/revisions\/2752"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1855"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1852"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1852"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/analogue-trope.ca\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1852"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}